Kavanaugh-Ford Hearings: Kinesic Expert Dissects Sen. Feinstein’s Honesty, Integrity

Watching and listening to the news media’s coverage of the feeding-frenzy generated by the U.S. Senate’s Supreme Court confirmation hearings for Judge Brett Kavanaugh is a most painful process for some law enforcement officials to endure. As one charge after another is drudged up by the ultra-leftist Democrats and their partners in the country’s news outlets — neither of which cares about truth and justice, but only winning — it becomes clear truthfulness is a very valuable commodity in the nation’s capital.

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper is an example of someone who is being deceptive. He’s got more “tells” than a bad poker player.

With so many politicians and news people making statements about the comments of alleged suspects and their alleged victims, it becomes clear these “interviewers” are merely showboating or acting out what they believe will earn them accolades or, more important to these narcissists,  a lot of votes on election day or TV-radio ratings and circulation numbers each week.

It is the consensus of several experts in criminal and civil investigations that what’s needed in the investigation of Judge Kavanaugh and his accusers is the expert analysis of words and actions of those testifying or those questioning subjects offering testimony before a congressional committee. Such analysis is known as Kinesic Interviewing and Interrogation.

Kinesics is the study of non-verbal communication. It is particularly useful for law enforcement officers because suspects and persons of interest in criminal cases often involuntarily present telling indicators of deception, receptiveness and nervousness through body language.

John E. Reid and Associates began developing interview and interrogation techniques in 1947. Reid was a former Chicago police detective who developed his own unique methods for getting to the truth of a matter. It became known as Kinesic Interview and Interrogation.

Today, The Reid Technique of Interviewing and Interrogation is the most widely used approach to question subjects in the world. The content of the instructional material has continued to develop and change over the years.

Reid instructors’ expertise on the topic of behavior symptom analysis, interviewing and interrogation techniques was recognized by the National Security Agency which awarded John E. Reid and Associates (in conjunction with Michigan State University) a sole source bid for a scientific study on the use of behavior symptoms in the detection of deception. The results of the study were published in the Journal of Forensic Sciences.

Reid has trained police officers, homeland security directors, members of the intelligence community (NSA, CIA, DIA, FBI) and corporate security and protection officials in the use of the techniques that have successfully helped to solve cases, determine truthfulness and provide evidence. This writer (Jim Kouri, editor of Conservative Base) was a student of Reid’s instructors twice — in 1984 and again in 1988, when these experts developed additional methods for detection of deception.

There is an entirely different narrative to be understood about what someone is saying to you, and it goes far beyond listening to their words. It’s what people do when they speak, how they behave, what movements they make, that tells the story.

Body language is sometimes far more telling than the actual words that come from someone’s lips.

Mandy O’Brien studies body language. She’s become an internet go-to expert on reading the truth on many D.C. inhabitants.

Sen. Feinstein has embarked on one of the most insidious plots in the DNC’s propaganda arsenal with the help of a dishonest news media.

And she’s got some pretty interesting things to say about Sen. Dianne Feinstein regarding the leak of Palo Alto University Professor Christine Blasey Ford’s letter accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when both were in high school.

In this video, O’Brien dissects every movement from Feinstein and those around her to come up with some fascinating conclusions regarding Feinstein’s statements in the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings as she answers questions about the letter she received from Ford.

Feinstein says: “Mr. Chairman, let me be clear. I did not hide Dr. Ford’s allegations. I did not leak her story. She asked me to hold it confidential.”

To that O’Brien responds: “OK, Feinstein has said two statements and neither one of them match. The other part of this, she’s written it down. I don’t know if she wrote it down during this hearing. It wouldn’t surprise me, but it’s suspicious to write it down.

“What did she say? ‘I did not hide it,’ and ‘I did not leak it.’ So, if you didn’t hide it, it means others knew, which kind of contradicts ‘I didn’t leak it.’ It’s a very ambiguous statement, especially since she went so far as to actually write it down so she stayed on point, just like lawyer-speak.”

Interestingly, not only does O’Brien find Feinstein’s statements not credible and suspicious, but the rest of the chamber is completely detached and unenthusiastic about her remarks. Bored.

At the 1:26 mark of the video, the camera gives us a wide angle shot of the room and the inattentiveness by the body is overwhelming. The body language by the rest of the committee is an enormous statement in itself.

O’Brien also notes Feinstein speaks to the body of the chamber, but does not make eye contact, a very tell-tale sign of disingenuous behavior. “She’s not even actually looking up towards anyone of any status, at least in her mind,” O’Brien adds.

Many local police and sheriffs departments have sent their officers and detectives to Reid & Associates to learn Interview and Interrogation techniques.

It’s possible Feinstein believes she isn’t lying if she can dance around the truth on a technicality.

“Now, there’s quite a few ways, especially since we’re dealing with lawyers, and they’re getting smarter, that you could approach this,” O’Brien says. “‘I did not leak,’ could mean she did not give anyone that letter because that part as she says it seems to be true. Her body sings with her.

“Everything is peaches and cream, and alas you’ve followed your little law. But, you know, whispered bullet points, whispered names, that’s not leaking, at least in their mind,” O’Brien says.

The next question is, if Feinstein didn’t leak, who did? A staff member possibly? Even if it wasn’t Feinstein herself, it was a betrayal nonetheless. And O’Brien gives a detailed description of a woman on Feinstein’s staff sitting behind her, and draws a conclusion that it is possible her staff could have been the culprit.

“But confronted on if your staff leaked it. See how her head goes back almost like a defiance and then she watches Feinstein to see her reaction. ‘Are you going to stand up for us?’ It makes me suspicious if the staff was the ones that were leaking it, whether they actually leaked the documents or, as I said before, leaked those bullet points,” O’Brien says.

Body language is a fascinating science. I can think of no better place to study it than inside the Beltway. There’s enough body language going on there to keep people watchers busy for a very long time.

Hopefully, the Kavanaugh hearings won’t go on much longer and we can watch an excited Justice Brett Kavanaugh take his oath as he proceeds to his seat on the Supreme Court.


Jim Kouri, CPP, is founder and CEO of Kouri Associates, a homeland security, public safety and political consulting firm. He's formerly Fifth Vice-President, now a Board Member of the National Association of Chiefs of Police, a columnist, and a contributor to the nationally syndicated talk-radio program, the Chuck Wilder Show.. He's former chief of police at a New York City housing project in Washington Heights nicknamed "Crack City" by reporters covering the drug war in the 1980s. In addition, he served as director of public safety at St. Peter's University and director of security for several major organizations. He's also served on the National Drug Task Force and trained police and security officers throughout the country.

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